• Correct visualization of enclosed categories in cloud of tags

    By Alexey Katyushyn 10 years ago

    Enclosed categories is amazing feature of notes-categorization. Example:



    Category1\Category2

    Documet1

    Category1\Category2\Category3

    Documet2

    Documet3

    Category4\Category4\Category6

    Documet1



    Unfortunately in a cloud of tags, this trick does not work :(

    • Don't understand

      By Niklas Heidloff 10 years ago

      Alexey, could you pls try to explain again in some more detail?

      • By Alexey Katyushyn 10 years ago

        Niklas,



        how can I attach screen shots with comments?



        P.S.: Sorry for my late response.

        • good question

          By Niklas Heidloff 10 years ago

          The project management UI is currently limited on OpenNTF. We need to improve this.



          For now could you put the screenshots on some public server and put in the links here?

          • By Alexey Katyushyn 10 years ago

            Niklas,



            link with images:

            http://picasaweb.google.com.ua/akat.go/For_discussion_template#



            In the cloud of tags should be: Monitors Monitors\NEC Monitors\SAMSUNG

            • tags and categories need to be different

              By Niklas Heidloff 10 years ago

              Thanks, I understand now.



              This shows again that categories and tags are different things. I agree that for categories you often want to have multiple hierarchies but not for tags. In 8.5 we put the tag information in the category field in the web UI which was not a good thing.



              Also categories are typically to group documents of one source, while tags are typically used to join documents from different sources. But many apps these days call everything just tags.



              I think we should continue to use categories on the rich client as they are used today. On the web client this 'by category' view show be available as well.



              For tags I envision a new component to store and manage tags from different discussion databases or multiple discussion instances within one discussion database (if/when we'll implement this).



              Question is though how we move from what we have today to this vision. For example should we remove the term 'tags' for now from the web UI and rename to categories?

              • By Alexey Katyushyn 10 years ago

                Niklas,

                thanks for explanations.



                IMHO, should be two things: categories and tags.

                Categories - for backward compatibility. I know a lot applications, which uses nested categorization. Imagine that this applications was upgraded to 8.5 template…



                Tags - as you correctly noted, for grouping of different information.

    • One Option

      By Peter D Presnell 10 years ago

      One option may be to create a new fields "Tags" that could be calculated as @Explode(Categories;"\"). This would have the effect of allowing categories to be used as intended and still support a tag cloud. e.g. reinstate By Categories view that categorizes on Categories and use Tags for the Tag cloud. User could enter either categories or tags.



      Category1\Category2

      Doc1

      Category1\Category2\Category3

      Doc2

      Doc3

      Category4\Category5Category6

      Doc1



      Would show in a tag cloud with 3 docs under Category 1, 2 docs under Category 2 & 3 and 1 doc under Category 4.